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1 year ago

vote Jimmy

A photo of c!Jimmy Solidarity, versus a photo of Bojack Horseman.

PROPAGANDA UNDER THE CUT: [SPOILERS AND POSSIBLE TRIGGERS AHEAD]

C!JIMMY SOLIDARITY:

"he’s had to die first in all the life series. by chance, oddly enough. but just imagine how sad that is. you’re always the first one to die. you can’t live out a happy long life with your teammates, you don’t get to feel the adrenaline that everyone is saying they feel when they kill somebody and knock them out of the game. and he always listens."
"He is cursed to die first The gods hate him and his malewife tendencies"
"Cursed by the narrative, dies first every time in the hunger games, pathetic wet cat of a man. Fandom assigned canary in the coal mine"
"he dies first every time like a pathetic cat. every single time he's like "oh i wont be out first" and then he is. he's either mourned or mocked, depending on how well he got along with his allies. Always the butt of the joke. He typically indirectly causes the downfall of his allies, and is specifically hated by god-like beings running the games he's forced into. They ensure that he dies first, referred to as the Canary Curse- since, once he stops singing (dies), the game goes downhill and the gateway is opened for everyone else to die their final deaths. A canary, always trapped in different walls, never able to escape and never able to survive. Always bringing someone down with him. also hes weirdly fruity like wtf bro"
"silly canary in the coal mine silly little guy cmon hes just a little guy"
"look i don't watch jimmy but this bitch so tragic the fandom literally made him a canary (harbinger of doom) just because he always dies first."
"Doomed by the narrative pathetic wet bag. (evo) First, hated by god-like beings called the watchers- (trafficlife smp) he was then struck with the Canary Curse, wherein he dies first - when he stops singing - and opens the floodgates for every other final death. In the first season, he accidentally got married, and died tragically- leaving his husband to mourn him during a war. In the second season, he was killed by his former allies, though in all fairness as he was trying to kill them. (he was pathetic all throughout the second season be real) In the third season, he died rather tragically- bringing his soulmate down with him in an all-too avoidable death. In the fourth season, he died unexpectedly- with everyone around him trying to keep him alive, all he had to do was get a kill to maybe grasp at more time. Instead, he fell- all the way down, nothing to save him- while his closest allies watched him. Worth noting how many of his deaths, in every series, are accounted towards falling- a Canary who cannot fly, has wings yet cannot save himself while falling to his demise, leaving mourning and death. (empires s1) And now, he is a little cod- with a long-lost sister and a potential courtship. Remembering, reuniting, proposal- the happier parts. War, death, destruction- of course it comes next. An explosion, an apocalypse, a rapture- his partner is dead, his sister has forgotten, his empire destroyed- and off the little cod goes, leaving behind all that was taken from him. (emp s2) And now he's a Sheriff, corrupt and cocky- a god turns him into a toy and now he is mocked. And also flirted with a lot. He finds his old sheriff, and as everyone finds their ending- he cannot stay in his beloved town, as it has been taken over by Fae. Having to leave, once again- traveling somewhere unknown, the happiest end for him and all- is one with him dethroned."
"The Canary Curse, every season he dies first, over and over again an endless loop of being the first to go"

BOJACK HORSEMAN:

"He’s the fault of his own problems so like if he doesn’t count he doesn’t count but he actively makes his life worse and worse despite wishing he were a better person"

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1 year ago

These are all good points for why you should vote Lloyd but I feel it will be amiss if we do not discuss Antigone a lil bit!

Here's a quick summary of Antigone for those of you who aren't familiar (of there are any inaccuracies pls let me know):

She's the daughter of Oedipus and Jocasta, so this take place right after that one (which I'm sure all of you are familiar with)

Her brother's agree to share the throne by swapping each year. Brother One decides that he isn't gonna give up the throne. Brother Two starts a civil war. They kill each other in a duel (as cursed by Oedipus to do) and Antigone's Uncle is now king.

Uncle gives B1 a nice respectful burial. He drags B2's corpse out of the city and declares that anyone who tries to bury him will be killed. (This is generally considered a Dick Move)

Antigone throws some dirt on B2. Her sister snitches on her. Uncle pulls her aside and says he'll cover for her this time but not to do it again.

Antigone does it again. In broad daylight. The hairs being her in before anyone else sees. Uncle says the same thing but he Really Means It This Time. Antigone says she will die on this hill. Uncle says aight, bet. Antigone calls him a pussy.

Antigone does it again. Uncle puts her in prison and sentences her to death.

Antigone is immured. (Buried alive, they put her in a stone box and walled up the exit)

The gods refuse to answer any prayers. A seer says it's because of the whole Antigone situation. Uncle tries to fix it by burying B2 and freeing Antigone.

Antigone is found to have hanged herself

90% of the characters then all kill themselves in an epic game of grief dominoes. Uncle is left to rule depressed and alone.

As we can see Antigone had many chances to Not Die but didn't take them because of her Fatal Flaws: Pride, Stubbornness and Loyalty.

While Antigone is Doomed, it is she who knowingly Doomed herself.

Lloyd is Doomed by a prophecy outside of his control. Everyone else's actions to delay the prophecy result in it happening sooner. As is the norm. Lloyd takes no actions to hasten, slow or avoid the prophecy because he's, like, eight. Besides asking his dad to please not destroy the world, of course (His dad is unable to do this as he is losing to the curse).

Lloyd never has a choice in the matter at any stage. He has to sacrifice these things each time and get up and keep going, even when he dies.

Lloyd's Fatal Flaws are: Loyalty, Selflessness and Stubbornness

I recognize that there can be debate over how to define tragedy, like Greek tragedies hardly all followed Aristotle's definition and those were in turn different from things like Shakespearean tragedy or modern definitions of "tragic character" but I think at the very least a tragic character should have a coherent arc, quality over quantity. A bunch of UNRELATED bad things happening to a character just because a show has gone on for a really long time isn't really telling a coherent tragic story. Especially when some of the bad things happening are literally repeats of each other. Like I haven't watched Ninjago but I keep hearing about how Lloyd had to kill his father 3 times, but I think reusing a "he has to kill his father" plot point over and over again while not having him die for real just to give each season a new plot is a lot less tragic than a more coherent narrative where someone just has to kill their father once and this ties into their overall character arc.

Very valid opinion


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