Descendants 5 - Blog Posts

I want Robbie to be ginger in D5 as in the movie Robin Hood was a Red Fox. Does it matter? No not at all but i still want him to have orangey Red Hair.

I have already spoken about this but i feel the need to say it again naming Robin Hood's kid Robbie is plain stupid especially when he has an older brother named Bobby.

Did the new team read any of the books at all or even look at the wiki? This is so stupid.

Robbie Hood

What the hell is this name? Robbie Hood seriously. I cannot take that seriously. That cannot be his full name it has to be a nickname.

I am now head cannoning his full name as Roland Robert Hood or Roland of Locksley/ Sherwood. Ouat had a much better name for Robin's son but then again they did name his daughter Robin as well so...

Also what the hell he has an older brother in the books called Bobby seriously you are telling me Robin and Marian named their kids Bobby and Robbie?

Squeaky and Squirmy ages

Their ages make literally no sense if the character cards are accurate. They are twins and squirmy is said to be 15 however they were 12 at the end of D3 meanwhile Red and Chloe are said to be 18 which means 2 years have passed. Which in turn means it has only been 3 years since D3 ended which makes no sense.

This would mean that RoR takes place a year after D3 which again means that it had been at maximum 6 months since Bal's wedding (probably less because planning a royal wedding takes a lot of tie) before they decided to fuck of to go to distant land which again makes no sense because you just released all the villains and there descendants from the isle.

It would also mean Uma would be like 19-20 when she was made principal which again makes no sense. She says its been 30 years in RoR since auaradon was created meanwhile in D1 Mal says its bee 20 years. I personally assume they are rounding up but it still makes no sense. Meanwhile Morgan (I believe it is morgan) says its only been a few years but now the maths says its one?

What the Hell is this? Get your timeline straight.

Squeaky and Squirmy

I am actually looking forward to seeing these two in D5 even if it is different actors. I'm curious to see how they and other villain kids such as Hazel have adjusted to living in Auradon these past few years.

Luis Madrigal

I know it will not happen and they will likely copy and paste Luisa's powers to her son however i'm hoping he has something like indestructability or agility or flexibility or super speed or endurance rather than his mother's powers.

I am curious to see how Encanto fits into descendants because Beast outlawed magic and the entirety of Encanto is their gifts i can't see Mirabel or Alma or really anyone agreeing to have the entire family stripped of their powers and lose their casita, the last bit they have left of Pedro.

Max Hatter

I actually feel like it makes more sense for Max to be the son of Maddox rather than the son of the Mad hatter. I only found out today but the actor who plays Maddox (Leonardo Nam) is 45 years old and is turning 46 at the end of this year while the actor who is playing Max (Brendon Tremblay) is 21 years old.

Oh also Max's real name is Maxwell Tarrant Hightopp Hatter (My opinion). I don't like how all the names are basically shortened names of parents so Maxwell. Tarrant and Hightopp both come from the fact that in a version of the mad hatter his real name is Tarrant Hightopp so Maddox is honouring his father and the Hatter part is from the Mad hatter keeping his last name while also embracing his title.

Hazel & Squeaky & Squirmy

I really looking forward to seeing the Twins and Hazel in D5 only because i really want to see the interactions between them. What dynamic do the three of them have? Captain and crewmates? Childhood friends? Cousin like relationship? I am dying to know how hook's relationship with smee impacted their kids' relationships because i see smee as a grandfather figure to the Hook kids.

Descendants 5 will set up D6 (Theory)

Okay so everyone is kind of confused about D5. The synopsis says When Wonderland plays host to the Kingdom Cup Games, Red and Chloe must fight to save everyone from an unexpected villain.

People are also disappointed that D5 won't have the Young Villians and that Uma's warning about messing with time has no effect. I currently believe that in D5 Chloe and Red will believe everything is fine and that they managed to get back without changing too much besides some small surprised (like Pink) however near the end when they face this unexpected villain they will realise they messed things up more than they realised and D5 will end with them planning or actively going back in time.

In D6 Red and Chloe will face a serious of choices trying to keep things as close to the original timeline as possible while still saving Cinderella's life. Red will have to deal with the fact that she will possibly be erasing the sister she has gotten to know and care about. In D6 we will discover more about the prank and we will get to see castle coming.

Red, Quinlynn and the Succession of Wonderland.

Red never knew she had an older sister, Quinlynn, until she was 15 Yo, a year before she went back in time. The QoH had forbidden Quinlynn's name to be spoken of as it was too painful for her.

One day she overheard the name and that was when she asked her father, The Red King, and he told her the painful truth her sister had been stolen right before the barrier was put up. Red had always felt as if something was missing and knowing she had a sister made things felt as if it finally made sense. In that moment when she was in between Ella and her mother she thought of Quinlynn stolen away from their parents and raise on that horrid isle and she made her choice. Her sister would come home.

She knew her sister returning would mean her loss of status as heir of Wonderland that instead of being the high ruler she'd only ruler over one kingdom but she did not care. She never wanted to be High Queen. It never felt right.

When she returned to wonderland and found her sister as Heir to the Throne, herself training to one day rule of Crims with several older siblings and a younger sister she finally felt happy. This was what her family would have been like if it weren't for that wretched beast.

In the Original timeline Allaria trained Quinlynn in everything she could to one day take her rightful place as Queen of Wonderland and Queen of Spades, she chose her position while on the isle because even though she is trapped as the eldest she has first pick even if she was stolen away. If she was denied her choice the magic and citzens of wonderland would riot.

How I See Wonderland (Au)

My au/headcannon. I wanted to make Wonderland a bit more perculiar/ out of the ordinary.

Wonderland has Eight states and one High King or Queen of Wonderland. The Royal family typically has 1-8 children but never more, originally it was six but when a King and Queen had more than Six children they had to create 2 more different territory.

The only hereditary title is Queen or King of Wonderland passed down from Eldest Child to Eldest child. They are the supreme ruler of Wonderland. The other territories are always given to the children of the ruler of Wonderland and the child has the choice between which territory/ title they want first pick goes to the eldest and the youngest has to choose between what is left.

E.G The Queen of Diamond may have a child but the only way that child become ruler of the Diamond territory is if the Queen of Wonderland (QoW) doesn't have 8 children or one of the QoW does not pick the Diamond territory.

When a territory is picked the ruler takes the child under their wing preparing them to rule once they reach age of majority or later (the child's choice), the previous ruler much step or else their entire family ,e.g the diamond family, is executed. They also have to sign a magically binding contract when they first takeover agreeing to one day step down if the time comes.

Some Kingdoms have not been picked in many generations which is what lead to Bridget marrying the Red King (no child of the ruler of Wonderland had wanted that territory in 200 years).

The Ruler of Wonderland rules under their chosen title which is how the QoH is also the QoW, while her father was the King of Clubs.

The Eight Kingdoms are Crims (Red, receives last name Rouge ), The Black Kingdom , I'm looking for a better name (Black, Le Noir ), Marmoreal (White, Ruler receives last name Le Blanc). The Kingdoms of Hearts, Club, Diamonds, Spades and the outlands.

The 'ninth' kingdom is Underland the capital and the seat of the high king or Queen. The other Eight Kingdoms surround Underland in its entirety, Underland is the centre of Wonderland.

In fear of losing red as she lost Quinlynn the QoH kept Red in the capital never allowing her to visit the other Kingdoms like she did when she was a child. Red never taught she had a choice of titles/ Kingdom believes she needs to rule as the QoH.

As the QoH only has 2 children in the original timline when she gets Quinlynn back, the remaining territories are passed down the QoH cousins/siblings lines until they are chosen once more by the main line.

The Heart Siblings & the QoH

Quinlynn is the eldest child of the Queen of Hearts. She was taken just before the barrier between auradon and wonderland was put up ending the war. She was raised by Bridget's cousin Allaria (The Queen of Spades) on the Isle of the Lost, it was Allaria who opened the Queen of Hearts salon.

Quinlynn never forgot her mother and Iracebeth made sure that never happened. Losing her firstborn and her favourite cousin took the last of the kindness left in Bridget helping transform her into the tyrant we know. Bridget ensured Allaria's territory remained untouched allowing the King of Spades to rule as Regent until the day she was invited back into Auradon and could rescue both her cousin and her child from the Isle.

Red was born when Quinlynn was about 10 years old. The Queen was not ready to have another child for a long time still grieving her firstborn. With her an her Husband (The Red King's) different schedules it took them a while to conceive even after the began trying. The QoH distance to Red was to keep her from getting attached in case her second born was taken as well.

Pink is a Timeline messed up baby. In the original timeline the QoH swore of having children after Quinlynn was taken but needed an Heir in this Timeline Quinlynn was never taken and the QoH never swore of having children. Red has several older siblings born from the QoH and the RK.

The Hook Family Names (AU)

Captain Hook is born James Bartholomew Orion Jones. His last name is really Jones not Hook however after he loses his hand he embraces the name Hook. His children continue to use the name Hook even after they come to Auradon. James is the name of his maternal grandfather while Bartholomew is the name of his paternal grandfather. Orion is the hunter constellation foreshadowing his hunting of Peter Pan.

Harriet is born Harriet Vela Bellatrix Hook. Harriet was the name of Hook's mother who dies long before Harriet was born. In connection to the second star, I like to think hook really loved stars and constellations which he learnt from his paternal grandmother. Vela from the Argo Avis constellation (considered the pirate constellation) which was divided into Carina (the keel), Puppis (the poop deck or stern) and Vela (the sails). Bellatrix is for the 3rd brightest star in the sky which is also considered the warrior star.

Harry is born Harrison Sirius Canopus James Hook. Harrison to honour hooks mother again. Sirius is the brightest star in the sky and in my mind Hook's father's name. Canopus is the second brightest star in the sky. James obviously is for Hook's first name.

CJ is born Calista Jane Carina Hook. Calista was Hook's paternal grandmother's name. Jane was for himself once more as Jane is often considered the female version of James. Carina is for the constellation Carina (The Keels)

Hazel is born Calliope Cassiopeia Puppis Polaris Hook. Hazel is a nickname that stuck. Calliope comes from the Greek Muse Calliope. Cassiopeia comes from the lady of the chair constellation. Puppis is unfortunate but he wanted to complete the pirate constellation. Hazel likes to forget its apart of her name. Polaris comes from the star in the ursa minor constellation. Pirates has to calculate their position they had to recognise celestial bodies like the sun, moon and particular stars including Polaris, Rigel and Procyon which is here Polaris comes from.

Captain Hook has nicknames for his kids related to their celestial| Greek names. Harriet (My warrior), Harry (My brightest Star), CJ (My beauty, in Greek Mythology Calista or Calisto was a huntress loved by Zeus and turned into ursa major) and Hazel (My Muse or my North Star)

Hook Sibling Ages

How old does everyone see the hook siblings? Personally I see Harriet as one of the first kids born on the Isle of the Lost so in D3 I See her as 22 to 21, Harry is said to be 19 at the end of D3, CJ is around 15 in WW so she is around 17 and Hazel at 10ish.

In ROR Uma says it's been 30 Years since Auradon and therefore the isle was created but I believe she was rounding up. Morgan Dudley said it was a 'couple of years' on her live. So, I like to put RoR at about 5-6 years after D3. If Hazel is the same age as Red and Chloe, then she'd be around 15-16 in D5 making her 10ish when the barrier came down.

So, Harriet is 2-3 years older than Harry, Harry is 2 years older than CJ and CJ is 6-7 years older than Hazel.

I don't actually mind Hazel's name being Hazel. Do not get me wrong i'd much rather it be something like Asteria or Nerissa or Katherine or Isolde or Calliope or Calanthe but when i first heard we were getting yet another hook kid i was half expecting her name to be Henrietta as Harriet is the female version of Harry and the name Harry is derived from Henry.

Personally i wanted her name to start with C to give CJ a letter buddy. Harry and Harriet both start with H, Cj should have a first name letter buddy as well.

Does the Queen of Hearts know she can name her kids other than her hair colors?

Did disney just gave up on these movies?