Love The Fact The Anime Made The Three AFO Users Share The Same (or Almost The Same) Shield Quirk:

I feel I'm always talking about this ship and Cinder and I thank you for that. I do have a question: does the media follow the cinder's gang?

I ask this bc I do want to give Izumi notoriety. Ofc she will WORK to gain it( I love her, but it would be disingenuous to the story making Izumi win by mere existing) but like the media does talk about the fearsome Usage (it's her moniker. A rare win for this fandom is the bunny jokes for Izu) and the same could be add to Cinder. He is a big name in the thievery world.

Or

Cinder works in the shadow and no one knows who he is?

Just wondering here bc I can work either way. Izumi gaining respect in the underworld and even getting the attention of big fishes like Nine.

It is still funny imagine Cinder being oblivious to how popular he is in the social medias. Villain fuckers are real and...he has never met them thanks to his good luck.

Izumi is watching the edits for...science.

You're welcome! Is always nice have more persons in this small fandom for the CiderIzu ship.

Can we call it SeltzerBunny too? Every ship good needs a corny name as well.

I assume the Cider House gang has sort of a reputation, considering their methods to operate and how they can wait for months before a big hit and not get captured in the process.

In my own AU nobody knows Cider is a member of the Himura family btw, but that's also probably because the clan erased a lot of his public registers and invented some story of "our son is overseas" or something like that.

Of course they're a famous gang in the otherworld however.

Ironically Nine is the underdog here, even his origin chapter put emphasis on how he "survived under the radar" considering how crazy his quirk is. I have my own ideas to flesh out this plot point, more info later.

I love the idea of Mizunami being totally clueless about his reputation in certain social media. He would probably think that's a bit cringe, but if it's Izu... he obviously doesn't mind.

He probably can get away because the mask covers a good part of his face, and that's a popular topic among his followers who fantasy about how he looks unmasked.

Only Izu (any version) got the privilege of see that handsome face in person.

If you were to turn 9 and his squad into main series villains, how would you do so?

Tough question actually, because there's a lot of different things you can do with a group of characters like them.

And I don't want to make the classic "role swap" in which everything in the timeline is almost the same minus which characters fill X spot.

For Nine specifically, I would start his story right after Kamino and the defeat of AFO.

An idea I would like to play is he and Shigaraki could actually act as rivals of sorts when AFO is out of the picture (but he would still have a part on the story).

As both groups will start from the very bottom without much resources, and Nine will have his empty copy of the AFO quirk to fill with new quirks different than the canon, perhaps only keeping the more iconic ones as Hydra just because is so cool.

Actually the quest for find the ideal quirks and one that solves the cell degeneration would be an important part of Nine developement, rather than just happen offscreen.

As for what new quirks he could steal, that's not something I don't have very clear yet (so I accept suggestions) but one of them would be Dabi's blueflames. Lol I just want see Nine with epic blue flames.

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Oh and an idea that always loved is that Nine needs another rival that isn't just Shigaraki, but someone else who is his direct opposite in terms of world view and ideology.

And that's no one else than Overhaul

Think about it, Nine and Kai are just the perfect foils for each other.

The concept of a quirk supremacist and an anti-quirk believer having a ideological (and literal) war for control the underworld and reform the world into their own view could be epic.

And for that to happen obviously we need to keep Kai as a recurring villain for most of the story. I would create a dynamic where a lot of villains groups will have internal battles while at the same time the heroes are another problem to deal.

But wait, you need soldiers for that to work.

And what best army for Nine than the one which literally believe in quirk supremacy?

Look I will die on the hill that MVA as a concept for an arc is literally made for Nine and his team.

The idea of Re-Destro wanting to contact a villain group that is getting more recognition and in the end they found common ground due beliefs fits way more with Nine than it does to Shigaraki.

I mean it's obvious, Nine is basically the living incarnation of all the ideals of the original Destro. If his descendant meet him he would instantly adore Nine.

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So that's just a part of all my ideas.

I would like to better put them together into something more consistent. Need to work on it, perhaps some day I will make a story based on this rewrite idea.

Hi, I saw some rewriting idea about Nine saving Shig and yeah it's cool. I also not a fan of the whole "Izu wants to save Baby Tenko" HE NEVER EVEN MEET TENKO OR SAW HIM AS A BABY.

So I want the whole Izu saves Shig still but their relationship would have to be work...and comes an idea.

What if Shig wanted Izu to join his side? He saw how Izu is mistreated by everyone and he wants to save Izu. For once, Shig wants to reach for someone.

Nine is in this equation and we can say ...he wants shig to not be used by afo.

How about that?

An au where Shig wants to make Izu join his side. Shig is making an effort for one hero and later said hero retribute the action.

That could shake Nine's beliefs...or not?

I actually want character development for Nine in the sense he realizes most of his beliefs are not entirely what he actually wants, but more the way being born in extreme conditions molded him to think only the power and strenght matter in a cruel world where people aren't treated equally.

After all, like I said in other of my post I think Nine internally has an unconscious desire to protect the weaks using the strength he possess. And his supposed distaste for weak people is more like a defense mechanism created due experience a hard life marked by the way society puts him down despite his rightfully called divine powers.

Because when you think about it, how did he even knew his friends are all that powerful before know them? He just saw them in such low life conditions and was like "I need to save them".

In my rewrite version of the story Nine does indeed have the heart of a hero, but due his life experiences he knows more drastic actions need to be made in order to improve something. He would be like a middle point between Deku who is pro status quo without realize, and Shigaraki who also shares a similar view but don't view ahead of destroy.

Speaking of which I guess the dynamic of Shigaraki trying to be a hero on his own way for Deku would result of him being scared at first. Because let's admit it, even if Shigaraki has good intentions for Midoriya I think his methods would be far to extreme to Deku accepting his offer, at least at first.

And that's where Nine would act a as a middle point between them.

I talked a lot of why I think Deku and Nine are perfect foils for each other, but his rivalry could find a neutral spot when both of them try to save Shigaraki from the influence of AFO.

Except in this case Nine would be the one to call out Deku for having a very surface level desire of save Shigaraki, a person Midoriya never knew or understand. Deku just want to be a hero because he had a preconceived idea of what is good for criminals, but never look the big picture or care about what happen to them after being arrested (like he does in canon duh).

Nine desire to save Shigaraki in this version of the story (following my previous post) would came from the fact he found Tenko as a child after the Shimura house incident, and they grow to together since they were childs, practically rising him as his little brother. So he knew Tenko better than any other person and also knows how bad AFO influence can be.

Oh I forgot to mention but in this version we skip the body snatching plot point for Shigaraki, as I have other ideas in mind for what AFO would do in this version on the part of getting a perfect vessel.

However, I do wonder how and why AFO came to the conclusion that he needed a vessel powered by hate to steal OFA.

Like I know it's established that the will of OFA prevents the quirk from being stoled, but how AFO even knows that info?

Isn't like there was a moment in which AFO tried to steal OFA but the will thing rule prevented it. All the times he failed on steal the quirk it was because it was already passed to someone else and the previous user was running on the embers.

The only time something like this this happens is when Nine tried to steal the quirk from Deku in the movie, yet Nine interpret it as lack of starage space in his own copy (for obvious reasons he's not aware of the existence of the vestiges).

I feel this is kind of a plot hole unless I'm missing something.

And yet despite add super regen to AFO original body was pointless (dabatable) after the face injury, not doing it before getting his skull smashed still feels like a dumb move.

Yeah body failing and all, but with regen AFO would still pretty much invencible in the meanwhile as his new body was getting ready.

Not to mention, now we have the confirmation they copied Overhaul from young Kai but instead of use its healing properties to full extent they just used the quirk to create Decay makes all the plan seem even more stupid. How tf AFO and Ujiko would waste such a god tier like Overhaul on making it more shitty by getting rid of the best effect?

What are the reasons why All For One wanting a successor before his Injury? This is a question that I have never seen before so may give some reason why I think he might have done it: One is that "Life Force" Quirk may be reaching it's end. The possibility that it may end soon is big problem for All For One so he is planning to get a younger body like Orochimaru or a better Quirk to keep him young then "Live Force". Two is, and I don't know where it comes from, but in the Wiki, it says that "All For One's body cannot properly contain Quirks of newer generations,". So he might be afraid he might not be able to gain more power anymore in the future. So what do you think?

You're half right. All For One's body was failing, both in lifespan and function, because extensively damaged by All Might. So damaged that not even "Super Regeneration" couldn't fix him and he had to be on constant life support. And it was stated by Garaki that All For One was having trouble with Quirks of the newer generation. That he had a harder time controlling the more complex Quirks. Both of those could be a factor. That All For One wanted an immortal body to rule the world forever, giving and taking whatever Quirk he wanted. However, the successor plan was in motion decades before his injury and there wasn't anyone who was a threat to his empire. The real reason was because he wanted to use Tomura's hatred to get "One For All". "One For All" was annoying at first, but was becoming a major problem to All For One, to the point that it ended up killing him. He couldn't beat the person who had it and he couldn't take it either. So he wanted to build up and use Tomura's hatred to take "One For All", finally ridding him of the biggest obstacle in his path.

Like father...

Like son...

I start thinking the Shigaraki expressions are hardcoded or something.

(Dad For One never beats the allegations 🌩)

The resemblance was subtle as a brick to the head:

Lol, but also Nine got a lot of traits from AFO as well. He's like their perfect mix.

Yet I can't help but wish the story actually did something with all this parallels between Nine and the shigabros. There's a lot of stuff implied but nothing really explored.

Nine is such a great character and his existence could've added a lot of the story of AFO and Yoichi.

MHA fans shouldn't ignore how beautiful Nine is.

Have you seen how gorgeous this man looks?

He should be bring into conversations about the most pretty male character more often.

Especially when Horikoshi draws him.

I don't think this need more explanation, Nine is something else.

Don't worry, I'm also studying for many upcoming exams on top of having to deal with my job lol. So I also answer a bit late.

I guess for that dude in particular it might be because he's tied to two semi popular characters who are Midnight and Mina. While Cider doesn't really have any ties with other characters in canon sadly.

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To me the best kind of fanservice is the one that gives you some kind of emotional reaction other than horny for the sake of being horny.

Really sometimes having a cute but intimate moment can have a better effect than just two characters being thirsty for each other.

And about the Himuras reasons to disown Cider... don't think to much about it, cause their logic is very twisted. Mizunami is great on his own but since he's not "the standard" that's reason enough to hate him according to the clan.

Can't stop thinking about a CiderDeku focused AU in which our favorite seltzer boy and Midoriya work as part time vigilantes together.

And since Izuku has a fire bending quirk in this AU, the contrast of his quirk and Cider's (who is named Mizunami Himura in this story) make people start calling them "Steam-Bow couple" as their unofficial vigilantes name.

Still thinking about the details of how they started their crusade together as vigilantes, but I like that idea I mention in other post about Mizunami saving Izuku from Bakugou when both of them still were in Aldera and Midoriya was around 13. Mizunami still was the leader of the Cider House gang (and maybe two years older than Midoriya) but later he left the group because he felt his members started to be way too problematic and getting in worse situations with civilians and heroes, something he didn't like because while Mizunami commited crimes like robbery he never tried to harm innocent people during his operations.

Besides he started feeling for Izuku after protect him from Bakugou, and since Izu wanted to stay with him after the incident they both start to get along and quickly became good friends, Mizu also helping Izu no being so shy and insecure about himself due the years of bullying.

He start helping Izuku to train his quirk and body during his free time, which served a lot for Midoriya to get in good shape and develop a fight style for the years to come as he still intented to apply to at least a low-middle tier hero school (and this will became important later).

I like to think the incident with the Sludge monster from chapter 1 was what caused a twist on their relationship, as unlike what happens in canon here when both of them are attacked by the Slime that escaped from A.M, Izuku and Mizunami give the monster a big surprise because they were able to fight back.

Slime turned to be quite vulnerable to water and fire combined, which allowed Izu and Mizu to restrain him in a bottle of soda and left him for the heroes finish the job later, as they run totally excited by the experience.

After escape and being safe, Izuku suddenly jump to the arms of Mizunami and they started kissing out of the excitement of the moment. When they calm down both smiled and since that moment they became officially boyfriends, and decide they would have more moments like this in the future so they will start fight criminals together.

Also the incident also give Izuku the final confidence boost he always needed and when Bakugou provoked him after school trying to make fun of Mizunami who was there for walk along Izuku to his home, Midoriya decided he had enough when Katsuki insulted his boyfriend.

So what happened next is that Izuku deep breath and expelled a big green fire ball from his mouth, which resulted in Bakugou getting a lot of first degree burns and loosing his eyebrows (something for what he would be mocked a lot later).

Mizunami used his water quirk to extinguish the fire over Bakugo's clothes who is totally terrified, then Mizu and Izuku laugh at him take a picture with their funs for future reference and run away together.

Hi @nyc3

CinderIzu is great and Cinder as a character was ignored, slept on ...bc villain stans are predictable into hot villains like dabi and shig(yes, shig is hot even in his possum way) and ...damn this fandom waste a good opportunity for a ship.

For a moment, thought you were talking about my idea.

I do like the idea Izumi being considered so beautiful even with her scars (she is prettier bc of her scars bc this woman survived) so in a country where the woman's value depends on her beauty...Izumi carrying her scars and being hot is amazing. Cinder would be into!

Cinder would also be into kill bk!

Her entire story, as she describes what BK did, seems like SA. See? The difference of boy and girl here is how people perceive the violence.

But I'm into this ship.

I do like sgdk a lot.

I do like dabideku too

But CinderIzu??? I'm open and so far like the ideas.

We can say for sure Hawks likes to play with the danger.

Either that or he wants Enji as a father in law so bad that he doesn't care.

I will never not to be disappointed for how Hawks never actually took Shoto under his wing!

We could use a lot more of this...

Lol, poor Shoto got the oblivious for living with Enji all this time. He didn't have the best influence while growing up.

Hey ay least Enji could say his son is attracting the best of the best. For once daddy Endeavor needs to put his pride aside and try to get the favor of his child.

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May I ask what other ships are your favorites? So I can have more idea of what I should send, unless you're open to my all kind of unusual ships.

I have the feeling that if Hawks choose Shoto to be his intern, 10% of their time together would be Hawks actually teaching hero stuff and the rest is just an excuse to take Shoto to shopping, watch movies in theatres, eat on restaurants and probably go to the hot springs in winter.

Of course our favorite birdie is just using the opportunity to "date" the youngest Todoroki, and Shoto is unawere of the deal but he still enjoys it regardless (he still don't realizes about his crush for Hawks despite being kinda obvious)

They're so cute and bad at relationships ♡♡♡

When I tell you I lost all of my shits when Hawks mentioned that he was fully intending to intern Shoto from the start I have not stopped raising an eyebrow at him since.

I wish they got more screentime together because Hawks takes so many opportunities to lean into Shoto's personal space and touch him, risking his ass doing it right in front of Endeavor no less. And yet Shoto remains so oblivious. I adore the idea that Hawks realizes Shoto has a crush before Shoto does and takes every opportunity to become his boyfriend before he notices. He's fast enough to pull it off afterall lol.

I have to wonder if Enji is equally as oblivious to romantic or sexual cues like that given his own loveless marriage or if he just sitting there, fists clenched, trying to be a better dad by respecting his son's autonomy while dreading the day he brings Hawks home for dinner. Like is his face reading "get away from my son" or "I'm glad Shoto is making more acquaintances in the industry"?

Please send me more ships to yap about, I can never get enough.

YoDeku shippers, we won.

I don't even play the game, but they need to keep feeding us with this kind of content.

Aren't they the coolest couple ever?

Midoriya deserves to be happy with his handsome boyfriend in the steampunk world.

They totally run a workshop together btw.

He's so big 🥲

Speaking seriously, he seem to be a big guy in general not just tall. These panels in particular always give me the feeling he's a very big guy despite not having a physical enhancer quirk.

Also he already got nice muscles despite being homeless (?)

And his shoulders are wide 🤭

Our boy was working on those streets.

Imagine how much bigger he would be if he had a proper home and family growing up.

wide nine

Ok it’s just the camera angle making him that way but according to that wiki site he’s 6 ft 2 so he also tall

not afo tall……but still

he ate all his fruits and veggies growing up 😌

…despite the fact he probably had no one take care of him growing up, poor nine baby 😔

just found this photo and I just think he look silly