I WAS RIGHT! PRIMO IS NIHIL'S BROTHER! YES!!!!
THOUGHTS FROM GHOST’S LONDON SHOW IN NO ORDER AAAA:
The way when they were played Satanised he was clutching his head and swaying when the chanting happened!
HE DID SHY MUMMY THRUSTS THEN A BIG ONE.
Talked about “my uncle” (Primo) playing Camden 15 years ago and when I tell you I sobbed!
Had a very in and out Copia/Terzo accent that was so hot.
Lots of GROWLS. Man was growling and speaking rumbly!
he also said “do you want an Easter egg up the Keister. A Keister egg” ASDFGGH.
When we were asking for more songs he told us very snappy but playfully to “shut up” and SHUSHED us.
He was shy, bit snappy and quieter. He yapped a little but not much. He seems a little reserved and when he was moving around the stage he was less bouncy than Copia but still lively!
IF ANYONE WANTS TO ADD PLEASE FEEL FREE!
I'm so excited to hear his clearer vocals and facial expressions on stage! We can actually see him smile now!
Let us please remember
That if the new mask is in fact a Half
that we will be thrilled at how clear the new vocals will be
we will be supportive of how the design choice also allows an alleviation from TF’s growing claustrophobia via the old masks
and we will be supportive of our lovely frontman that has carried his own hangups and insecurities as an artist like a fucking champ through a million albums and performances
and we cannot wait to see this little freak in the flesh
At this point, I think we can just go with our own interpretations of the story because of how loose it is. In the end, it's the music that truly matters. I would love a more coherent story, of course, but I'm not going to lose sleep over this anymore. I'm satisfied with just enjoying the music and concerts now. Although, it is still sad that I will never see Terzo having any influence. At least we got quite a few Meliora songs on the tour set list. Maybe Papa V Perpetua looked up to Terzo and wants to subtly carry on his legacy?
I think a retcon with four brothers is a bad plot decision, and here's why.
1. In the Meliora era, Nihil was introduced as the father of the other Papas, and that's important for many reasons. Tobias himself repeatedly emphasized that Terzo and Secondo had a common father but different mothers, and presented this as an essential characteristic. Nihil he referred to as "the bigger fish in the sea." Terzo once even promised that sooner or later we would see his father - and so it turned out.
2. The subject of Meliora is a world without God. Tobias described it as a pre-apocalyptic world. It ends with the end of civilization when God returns and punishes humanity for its complacency. The last song of the era, "Bible," tells how the people of Babylon forgot about God and he unleashed the world in his wrath. The next album, Prequelle, is a logical extension of this - it's about the return of God, who brings punishment (plague) upon mankind. Considering this, metaphorically Nihil is the very God-father who comes to "close the party".
3. By coming on stage, Nihil is saying that a new Middle Ages is coming. His return symbolizes the rolling back of political systems to more archaic ideas and ways of government (I guess I don't need to tell what from real life that looks like). Modernization is replaced by conservatism. Democracy is replaced by more rigid and authoritarian forms of rule. The older generation here symbolizes conservative ideas, while the younger generation symbolizes aspirations for the future.
4. Terzo's image is largely based on the image of Lucifer, there are many references to that. Lucifer was thrown out of heaven by God, his father. It makes sense that Terzo is also cast down by his father, Nihil.
The Meliora - Prequel system worked fine until they needed to change key elements for some reason. I hope TF scraps this idea, because obviously it offers a bad alternative to a good story.
Is it just me, or are the priests in the image exposing their fronts like Papa II did at the end of the Year Zero music video?
PREORDER
SECONDO'S SOFT, FEMININE, ROMANTIC SOUL....
I just want to get this off my chest. I miss Terzo so much. But I also understand that he probably won't be coming back. I hurts remembering Chapter 3, especially when we can see Papa III's foot twitch, which I can only see as being purposeful. Maybe it was hinting at a stroy route that Tobias ended up scrapping, or maybe it was meant to twist the knife plunged into the hearts of Terzo's followers. I don't know which reason it is.
But, I would like to think that, if he could see how his flock are faring now, he would not want us to be sad for him. Maybe, he would want us to reach for the stars, soar to the heavens in ways he was prevented from doing.
He lives on in every one of us. In our hearts. We are the true ministry he strived to create. We can carry on his legacy.
He wanted us all to have happy endings. Even though he couldn't find his in this world, maybe he can finally have it in spirit.
"Let none on this earth inherit/ This vision of my spirit."
Maybe, this still rings true. That no other Papa can truly replace him and what marks he left in this world.
I'd like to think that, even now, he is cheering us on to be the best versions of ourselves. In the pursuit of something better.
Me, waking up in PST and opening Tumblr:
He's so submissive here oh my God!
endless ghifs 33/? ⛧ source — "In God we trust!"
This is amazing! Thank you @cityofmeliora and @blackbird5154 !
I've been thinking a lot about how the personality of Papa III was created. Tobias set the basic framework, the archetype, the cliché from which he drew. But the real implementation of Papa was on stage, where his image developed through improvisation. Some things were conceived on purpose, some were invented on the spot, some came out unplanned, due to circumstances. Papa turned out to be as lively and unpredictable as life itself. In many senses, he lived on stage.
Thanks to the research of concerned fans, there is quite a lot of material. It occurred to me to collect them in one post for those who want to get acquainted with the canonical image of Terzo. This catalogue uses materials from two users, Cityofmeliora's and myself. You can use them for fanfiction or just for your own amusement. So, allow me to introduce Papa Emeritus III!
Radley @cityofmeliora has an academic degree in Terzo Studies. He did a great job watching probably 100% of the Terzo videos and bringing us some interesting insights about his personality from the Terzo mines.
▸ notes / thoughts on Terzo's characterization (Terzo is so disappointed and depressed and i love him)
▸ Terzo's mom was mentioned twice
▸ quotes on Secondo and Terzo's age gap / the Emeritus brothers having different mothers
▸ TF on the archetype of Papa
▸ about Terzo's height...
▸ Terzo's sweet tooth 🍰🍫
▸ Secondo lied about being able to speak Swedish, and Terzo lied about *not* being able to speak Swedish
▸ according to the Nameless Ghouls, Terzo is better than Secondo because he has hair and is "less smelly" 😂😂
▸ TF breaks character a little too much and accidentally makes it canon that Terzo has a child 💀👶
▸ Who is Mysterious Spectre?
▸ transcript: Terzo's first concert - Linköping, Sweden (June 3, 2015)
▸ transcript: Sweden Rock Festival (June 4, 2015)
▸ Terzo lying about his knowledge of Swedish AGAIN!
▸ Terzo talking about his mom <3
▸ Papa Nihil taught his sons to sing
▸ Terzo hates it when people are bad at clapping 👏👏👏
▸ Terzo knows he's always yapping <3
▸ Terzo is hard of hearing 🦻
▸ Terzo did WHAT in Poland? 😳
▸ Terzo totally not bragging about his Grammy 🙄
▸ Terzo + children 🥰
▸ Terzo had eye infections???
▸ "And it is very important that you respect the fact that there are kids and there are"
▸ Terzo thinks 'Cirice' is a sad song
▸ Terzo getting angry
▸ Terzo's fucked up sore throat voice 🤒
▸ Terzo mentioning Secondo 😎
▸ Terzo mentions his parents 🧑🤝🧑
▸ Terzo + family 👪
▸ Terzo + being old 👴
▸ Terzo saying quesadillas are his favorite food 🧀
▸ Terzo is NOT a fluent / native Italian speaker 🤭🇮🇹
▸ Terzo + musical instruments 🎹🎸🥁🎺
My modest contribution to terzology was an attempt to summarise observations and look inside the head of the mysterious Papa III.
▸ Part 1: Terzo's responsible attitude to work
▸ Part 2: The jokes about height
▸ Part 3: The relationship between Terzo and Secondo
▸ Part 4: The ideas behind the birds and the bees speech
▸ Part 5: Terzo's other beliefs that he broadcast
▸ Part 6: Terzo and his loneliness
Just a woman with a hyper fixation on Ghost at the moment. I also like VTubing. Gavis Bettel is my kami oshi!
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